tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post4772133195416025205..comments2024-03-28T07:09:28.500+00:00Comments on The Speculative Scotsman: Opinionated Speculations: Thar Be PiratesAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08713791516631476930noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-22900108997774061012021-02-06T11:15:35.721+00:002021-02-06T11:15:35.721+00:00hostitbro<a href="https://vpsboard.com/threads/host-it-bro-get-50-off-on-linux-hosting-free-ssl-starts-at-0-99-mo.17038/" rel="nofollow"> hostitbro </a><br />luckyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06723037247259341786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-3339434265007544432019-08-21T07:03:34.055+01:002019-08-21T07:03:34.055+01:00real beautiful Article, Thanks for sharing!
Why Pi...real beautiful Article, Thanks for sharing!<br /><a href="https://www.justwebworld.com/why-pirate-bay-is-down-right-now/" rel="nofollow">Why Pirate Bay Is Down Right Now?</a>gopipatelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04314175811935973396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-67740564180945833872011-01-13T09:45:53.936+00:002011-01-13T09:45:53.936+00:00And Lillith Saintcrow
And Kimberly PauleyAnd <a href="http://www.lilithsaintcrow.com/journal/2011/01/dont-steal-my-books/" rel="nofollow">Lillith Saintcrow</a><br /><br />And <a href="http://www.kimberlypauley.com/2011/01/12/and-furthermore-why-illegal-downloads-suck-i-e-status-of-a-third-mina-book/" rel="nofollow">Kimberly Pauley</a>Celinehttp://celinekiernan.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-38078269833487580192011-01-13T09:38:00.963+00:002011-01-13T09:38:00.963+00:00Just adding another link to the thread. Author Sau...Just adding another link to the thread. Author Saundra Mitchell raises her voice about piracy and the toll its taking on her sales:<a href="http://anywherebeyond.livejournal.com/342581.html" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>Celinehttp://celinekiernan.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-72763973705943473942010-11-13T21:16:30.583+00:002010-11-13T21:16:30.583+00:00Mieneke, you're from the Netherlands? That'...Mieneke, you're from the Netherlands? That's gas! The first book has just been translated for the Netherlands! I'm eagerly awaiting hearing what 'Poison Throne' is in Dutch! <br /><br />Mel: Libraries are really struggling here too - which is a shame as I and my peers have had the most incredible support from the Irish library system. I've never met such a driven group of people. They are so thoroughly dedicated to getting kids reading.Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-89670847064869019382010-11-13T20:24:54.685+00:002010-11-13T20:24:54.685+00:00Wow, that's really handy for the publishers/au...Wow, that's really handy for the publishers/authors. I'm not sure most U.S. libraries are well-enough funded to be able to do that, though.Melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-56624966316145267882010-11-13T19:03:20.035+00:002010-11-13T19:03:20.035+00:00*beams* I'm like a Jedi. My geek-cred just dou...*beams* I'm like a Jedi. My geek-cred just doubled!<br /><br />That's really interesting Celine. I just looked it up on Google and I figured out why I'd never heard of it too. Academic libraries are exempt in the Netherlands.Mieneke van der Salmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04782771945227479913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-66039230506241547162010-11-13T13:06:03.139+00:002010-11-13T13:06:03.139+00:00That thar be librarians hereabouts as well gives m...That thar be librarians hereabouts as well gives me, I'm not ashamed to admit, no small amount of pleasure. You guys... you guys are like Jedi!<br /><br />That is all I have to add this afternoon.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08713791516631476930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-30957847688355931472010-11-13T12:54:25.029+00:002010-11-13T12:54:25.029+00:00I live in Ireland, but I know the same applies to ...I live in Ireland, but I know the same applies to UK/AUS/NZ/Canadian and German libraries to name a few. I don't think it applies to US library systems. ( just to be clear you are only entitled to PLR from the country you reside - translators are entitled to PLR in their country. Illustrators too are entitled to a portion of PLR)Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-16024733040604248972010-11-13T12:47:12.926+00:002010-11-13T12:47:12.926+00:00@Celine You're welcome :) And I didn't kno...@Celine You're welcome :) And I didn't know that about the PLR. Is that just a UK thing or global? I'm an academic librarian myself.<br /><br />@Mel Depending on which ILS a library uses, it might be as simple as setting the right parameters when sorting, since publishers are part of the metadata added to publications.Mieneke van der Salmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04782771945227479913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-74061574003767919162010-11-13T09:45:31.418+00:002010-11-13T09:45:31.418+00:00Sorry - I should have taken time to explain. A Pub...Sorry - I should have taken time to explain. A Public Library Remuneration (lending remuneration?) report. We get approx 8 cent per lend per title registered - whether you keep it or donate it back to the library is up to you :)Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-19568431087008031912010-11-13T09:42:31.369+00:002010-11-13T09:42:31.369+00:00The Library system sends the writer/translator a P...The Library system sends the writer/translator a PLR report at the end of the year :)Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-81951240852966967672010-11-13T07:55:59.590+00:002010-11-13T07:55:59.590+00:00This is tangential, but...
I'm kind of baffle...This is tangential, but...<br /><br />I'm kind of baffled by one thing here: do libraries in the UK (or anywhere) really send circ numbers to publishers? I can't imagine a library having the time and funding to compile that information by publisher (unless they're sending their total circ numbers to ALL the publishers and letting them sort it out), and I can't imagine why a publisher would care about those numbers. As far as I have ever heard, circ numbers are used internally by libraries to guide future purchases and locally to allocate funding, that kind of thing.<br /><br />A single copy of a book that checks out to 500 patrons in a year still earns the publisher the profit of a single book.<br /><br />Does anyone have a reliable source for libraries providing publishers with circ numbers, or an explanation for why publishers would actually care?Melnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-82792018895733253192010-11-12T15:54:41.429+00:002010-11-12T15:54:41.429+00:00That's a fascinating article, Meineke! Thank y...That's a fascinating article, Meineke! Thank you for sharing it.Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-64573957467107823562010-11-12T15:38:28.553+00:002010-11-12T15:38:28.553+00:00Great article Niall, eventhough it's a bit sad...Great article Niall, eventhough it's a bit saddening that people would do this. <br /><br />I ran across this article. http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/10/steal_book <br />It came from one of the library blogs I follow for work, but I thought it might add to the discussion here.<br /><br />Oh and Evil Hat, your sad eyes made me giggle, so thanks for that!Mieneke van der Salmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04782771945227479913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-77388872827871156022010-11-11T14:54:22.669+00:002010-11-11T14:54:22.669+00:00t"he content creators say that unauthorized c...t"he content creators say that unauthorized copying is stealing and in truth, that's just not the case. It's like using a toll road without paying. It's not something that can be given back but it's not something the creator has to worry about replacing."<br /><br />That's odd, I don't remember difficulty to replace being anywhere in the definition of stealing: "to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stealing)<br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, there's no way to justify piracy. Downloading is the same thing as walking into a bookstore, slipping a book under your jacket, and walking out, sans any realistic chance of getting caught. Could you do that? I just don't understand the attitude that the people who make your entertainment don't deserve your money; they should be happy you're reading them. What short sighted bullshit. I'm sure authors do enjoy being read very much, but in a few years of being read with no real sales, I have a feeling there's going to be a slightly negative effect on the market. Just a theory, mind you.<br /><br />Though I do just want to point out that I'm somewhat annoyed by the number of people referring to music as instant gratification and nothing more. Seriously? You've never studied an album for every nuance, tried to chart the progress of a band's style, or even had a favorite album that you still play years after you first heard it? Right now, I'm looking at you with the same sad eyes I'd direct at someone who's only read Dan Brown.Nathaniel Katzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12852939663324751332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-38338552185117448312010-11-11T12:23:02.454+00:002010-11-11T12:23:02.454+00:00And another link, late maybe, but what will the NY...And another link, late maybe, but what will the NYT putting out an ebook bestseller list do? I would think those who normally wait and release the ebook later than the book will reconsider.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/books/11list.html?_r=1&src=tptw<br /><br />CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-67732417654714745822010-11-10T02:43:36.869+00:002010-11-10T02:43:36.869+00:00Man, people are dishonest. I don't give a fly...Man, people are dishonest. I don't give a flying fuck about the numbers or the philosophy of the best solution. As far as i'm concerned the reader has a contract with the author. Borrowing a book? Fine. Getting a book at the library? Fine. Your reading a book that has been payed for, even if it wasn't by you<br /><br />Getting the book online without even a nod in the authors direction. Fuck you. I'm not even an author and this pisses me off.<br /><br />All of these excuses in these comments for why something drastic and effective hasn't been done to stop this ridiculousness are simply excuses for dishonesty. Stealing is stealing.<br /><br />As for music or video games or movies or any other media with an existing pirate community, Reading is like that. It just isn't. It's educational, it can lead to severe and very helpful self examination and a different view of the world around you. It is what makes you and i more advanced from people a thousand years ago. They read, yes, but did they have as much material to read? No.<br /><br />Mark Twain said, "The man who doesn't read good books is no better then the one who can't read them." He was right, and in light of this, how can anyone treat reading like movies or any of the others mentioned above?Josiah Cadicamonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-13143177289462659412010-11-10T00:34:33.124+00:002010-11-10T00:34:33.124+00:00Hey Niall, I know where Metallica are - they'r...Hey Niall, I know where Metallica are - they're here in Sydney, Australia and I'm going to see them tonight! \m/<br /><br />And as for their fight against Napster, I wonder if you asked them now in hindsight whether they were happy with that fight and what they achieved and whether or not they would do the same thing again. It is very debatable whether they would - they alienated and p!ssed off a lot of fans and didn't change a whole lot...Marduknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-68252541750109198812010-11-10T00:11:58.283+00:002010-11-10T00:11:58.283+00:00Since we're sharing links, looks like Adam has...Since we're sharing links, looks like Adam has posted his thoughts on the debate in full over at The Wertzone. He also offers up the beginnings of a potential solution to e-book piracy he and a few other commenters mooted earlier - a Steam experiment of sorts, you could call it.<br /><br />Go, and do:<br /><br />http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2010/11/e-books-piracy-and-what-to-do-about-it.html<br /><br />But back I go to The Tiger. It's still swell. Night all!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08713791516631476930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-22579282194926145012010-11-09T23:16:54.624+00:002010-11-09T23:16:54.624+00:00In a nice bit of serendipity, Rose Fox over at Gen...In a nice bit of serendipity, Rose Fox over at Genreville, is discussing the impact international e-book copyright restrictions are having on readers. You can read the post <a href="http://blogs.publishersweekly.com/blogs/genreville/?p=862#comments" rel="nofollow"> here</a>Celinehttp://www.celinekiernan.com/blog/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-69992577944100531412010-11-09T22:06:02.912+00:002010-11-09T22:06:02.912+00:00764 downloads? I bet not even 10% will read it. An...764 downloads? I bet not even 10% will read it. And from those 10%, i wonder how many would buy it if they couldn't get it for free...<br /><br />We don't know, just as we don't know how many of those might enjoy the book and decide to buy it or buy the next books from the author. Or have friends that might hear about it and decide to buy it.<br /><br />And those people who download torrents with 10000 ebooks? How many centuries would they need to read those? Or did they download it becouse of a couple ebooks? Or are just hoarders? Yet, for publicists, that's 10000 fewer sales per download...<br /><br />If prices are fair, people will buy the books. If they don't feel explored, they will buy. Of course, there will always be people who won't buy no matter what. But those aren't lost sales or clients... They never were potencial clients anyway. But who knows if some might become clients, if they manage to read something that they weren't willing to if it weren't free?<br /><br />I buy more books than what I can read. And since i've got my kindle and easy access to pirated ebooks, these last two years, i've spent more money in books and ebooks than in my previous 10 years together!<br /><br />Ebooks make it easier for us to purchase by impulse. And piracy... Although morally wrong, it's not necessarily bad, either for reader or authors or publishers. It's a matter of the publishers to adapt to current times.<br /><br />People talk about how easy it is to pirate music and movies with the mp3 and such... The music and movie business never had such strong sales and profits as today. Something to think about...Angelohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07092095956981708690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-46430328050601284662010-11-09T21:20:14.115+00:002010-11-09T21:20:14.115+00:00Just another thing: the publishing market is compl...Just another thing: the publishing market is completely different from music/movies. Music and movies are immediate gratification and (mostly) short lifetime. A movie lasts two hours, a song a few minutes, and for most people it's just casual consumption.<br /><br />Publishing is different: an MP3 is arguably the same or better than a CD, a HD x264 is arguably the same thing or better than a bluray disk, but a book is not so easily replaceable, books will not disappear soon, and most of all, few people read and the ones who do read more than a book per year are already _invested_, so they're already the best kind of customers a media company could want, people accustomed to spending money and people who will continue spending.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-52332227701875878502010-11-09T21:11:25.718+00:002010-11-09T21:11:25.718+00:00Sorry, but this whole thread it's just the old...Sorry, but this whole thread it's just the old RIAA/MPAA/BSA "1 download = 1 lost sale" argument who has been dismantled repeatedly in the last 10 years.<br /><br />And I wouldn't be so quick to ignore Doctorow. He is not the only one making his books available for free, Baen has been doing the same for years and they're still in business. Some of their authors had all their books, including their debuts, available for free from day one and they still sell a lot.<br /><br />The only thing to do with regard to "ebook piracy" is NOT TO TALK about it like it's the end of the world. Napster exploded after the lawsuits, because they made pretty much everyone aware of a possibility they didn't know. Right now most people have no idea you can find unlicensed copies of ebooks, provide all these people NOW with a decent store with decent prices and they'll just buy the books there. Of course a minority will look for free copies, but as long as it's a minority you don't really have to care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6498739347909985243.post-39793724323352093682010-11-09T20:27:40.448+00:002010-11-09T20:27:40.448+00:00I wanna look at Dwagginz's argument:
"I ...I wanna look at Dwagginz's argument:<br /><br />"I don't think publishers help themselves, and nor do bookstores. I am *not* paying £9 for a 200 page paperback in WHSmith or Tesco when I can go to Amazon and get it for £3-4. That, in my opinion, is stores taking the yellow liquid. Surely dropping the price of a book to £5-6 would make it more attractive to the buyer, therefore more sales?"<br /><br />Firstly I think you'll find most of the money a book costs more at a physical store than Amazon, goes to rent, electricity and higher staff costs per £ in sales.<br /><br />As for lower prices=higher sales, I don't agree. Let's say (using totally random numbers)the publisher earns £5 for every £10 the book buyer spends. Since production costs per copy are pretty fixed, lower price might mean the publisher only makes £3 for every £10 spent. That would mean they'd have to sell 67% more books to earn the same amout of money. -Or that for the publisher to earn £15 pounds you'd have to spend £50 instead of £30. <br /><br />Most people who buy many books have a fixed budget to do so, and I don't think those that buy few or no books will start buying more books if the price drops.Weirdmagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10999326013335351617noreply@blogger.com